as being a head of public opinion on issues of rights whether it was the brown v. board case. when the supreme court got ahead of public opinion and advanced rights forward. scalia has been consistent throughout his career that believes the constitution as he said in the same speech is dead, dead, dead. and we should go back to the intent and stand athwart it yelling stop. i think we are seeing his personal opinions of homosexuality coming forward in what he said. the problem for him is that's not the court's job. the state and the country has a compelling interest with murder. is there a compelling interest in stopping people from getting married? that's the problem he'll have. >> my approach is if you're conservative on these issues, even if you're a chief justice or whatever you are. why doesn't he just say call me old fashioned or anything. just why do you have to be nasty? i think it's the question of nastiness. your thoughts, christine. as a gay woman, is there a proper way for someone who disagrees with you to talk? >> there is. i've had any number of conversations with